tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3184990032979540229.post3579572376294947626..comments2023-10-25T09:49:43.089+01:00Comments on BEN'S PRISON BLOG - Lifer On The Loose: The Stephen Fry Thingprisonerbenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14923205052778958118noreply@blogger.comBlogger80125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3184990032979540229.post-77781725777979347932013-08-05T02:03:28.171+01:002013-08-05T02:03:28.171+01:00Hide your valuables in plain site with Best Divers...Hide your valuables in plain site with Best Diversion Safes's selection of diversion safes and hidden compartments. Burglar's spend an average of 8 minutes in burglarizing a home looking for valuables, lock boxes, and other obvious containers that might be worth their while. What better way to throw them off the scent than with a diversion safe for home security. Diversion safes are indistinguishable from the actual product they imitate. So if you are looking for the best diversion safes, you will find that we have over sixty different diversion safes that you can choose from.<br />Best Diversion Safeshttp://www.mysafetydefense.com/diversion-safes.htmlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3184990032979540229.post-65642548691296228622013-07-08T21:57:10.321+01:002013-07-08T21:57:10.321+01:00Hi Ben,
Have been reading you blog for a long ti...Hi Ben,<br /> Have been reading you blog for a long time now, although have never commented. As a fairly old fashioned conservative you've given me a long pause for thought about crime and punishment and how we treat prisoners - I don't always agree but you've lifted some stones I'd never have thought to have looked under myself.<br /><br />Many thanks for all your efforts, I hope all is well with you and yours,<br /><br />RobertAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3184990032979540229.post-79282515810162505782013-07-03T19:47:06.617+01:002013-07-03T19:47:06.617+01:00I hope you are being looked after, or supported, i...I hope you are being looked after, or supported, in a good and sensitive manner. I won't be the only one sending you my best and warmest wishes. Siri xxSirikithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13188194741226037319noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3184990032979540229.post-31084124552153299832013-06-23T22:01:26.966+01:002013-06-23T22:01:26.966+01:00You lot have been keeping yourselves entertained w...You lot have been keeping yourselves entertained whilst I've been away howling at the moon - but the comments on this thread are now to close.<br /><br />Debate around the issues is one thing, but this has descended into personal abuse - and I won't stand for that. A number of comments will now be deleted by me, and any further comments will also be deleted. This discussion ends here and now.<br /><br />Thanks.prisonerbenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14923205052778958118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3184990032979540229.post-35956266508485972322013-06-23T21:14:18.014+01:002013-06-23T21:14:18.014+01:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3184990032979540229.post-87971568378110864382013-06-23T20:34:43.979+01:002013-06-23T20:34:43.979+01:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3184990032979540229.post-48146113554659879492013-06-23T20:08:15.556+01:002013-06-23T20:08:15.556+01:00AND wish you better, Ben!! I don't think any o...AND wish you better, Ben!! I don't think any of us wish you other than well, regardless of our differences of experience or opinion. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3184990032979540229.post-26230260822142556302013-06-23T19:58:33.451+01:002013-06-23T19:58:33.451+01:00You're right, Tara; it's easy to get carri...You're right, Tara; it's easy to get carried away sometimes. Let's draw a line under this one and part as friends, everyone?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3184990032979540229.post-13064721316368495532013-06-23T16:34:55.678+01:002013-06-23T16:34:55.678+01:00oh hang on its a different Anonymous, one with a p...oh hang on its a different Anonymous, one with a personal axe to grind. Such a pleasant chap ...Sophienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3184990032979540229.post-85581821683675649362013-06-23T16:31:24.329+01:002013-06-23T16:31:24.329+01:00Rather unpleasant you say? Its positively gruesom...Rather unpleasant you say? Its positively gruesome ...Sophienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3184990032979540229.post-52982894922383911732013-06-23T16:24:46.818+01:002013-06-23T16:24:46.818+01:00Haha good one, but what has it got to do with anyt...Haha good one, but what has it got to do with anything relevant to here Ms Anonymous ?Sophienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3184990032979540229.post-8332495745421587662013-06-23T16:21:49.528+01:002013-06-23T16:21:49.528+01:00Hiya all. Returning to see... ugh! - I think this ...Hiya all. Returning to see... ugh! - I think this is all rather unpleasant. Just saying. And that comment above, if the AA 'joke' actually touched on something serious, is sick. How would ANY of this, latterly, help anyone, except perhaps anyone intent on being 'right' or making a point or 'winning' some irrelevant, largely uninformed, potentially harmful verbal battle at which ego and mere point scoring seems to be at core? Horrible to turn a subect of such gravity into this mess. IMHO. Best, tara @tarakatesandersAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3184990032979540229.post-33836790179671903632013-06-23T16:19:04.643+01:002013-06-23T16:19:04.643+01:00ok Anonymous Ms Teetotal oul fool, do please carry...ok Anonymous Ms Teetotal oul fool, do please carry on with your interesting comments... and btw your friend Churchill was a liar as well permanently drunk and depressed. Sophienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3184990032979540229.post-92125756832006885442013-06-23T16:14:35.307+01:002013-06-23T16:14:35.307+01:00My favourite is the song about the IRA terrorist, ...My favourite is the song about the IRA terrorist, 'You're Sinn Fein; You Probably Think This Song is About You...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3184990032979540229.post-68715612139363866942013-06-23T16:09:48.779+01:002013-06-23T16:09:48.779+01:00Oh Sophie, you're such a little charmer! Shame...Oh Sophie, you're such a little charmer! Shame I'm teetotal. Although to paraphrase Churchill, Madam, I may be drunk, but you are unenlightened. And by tomorrow morning I'll be sober.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3184990032979540229.post-76808270595683246092013-06-23T16:02:55.094+01:002013-06-23T16:02:55.094+01:00Well here's a little musical interlude until B...Well here's a little musical interlude until Ben gets back, it is especially dedicated to Ms 'Anonymous', a song called 'you're drunk' http://youtu.be/sMqFRQlh3YsSophienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3184990032979540229.post-513700731818651492013-06-23T14:36:34.391+01:002013-06-23T14:36:34.391+01:00P.s. I have a secret weapon that protects me from ...P.s. I have a secret weapon that protects me from becoming 'offended' or 'flustered'; it's called a sense of humour. I truly am not anything other than amused; why would I keep trying to get through to the likes of you and Sophie if I didn't find it enjoyable? I know you both WANT to think I'm gnashing my teeth and swearing under my breath, but I think this must be a form of projection. My nearest and dearest would drag me outside in the fresh air the moment I started to look or sound stressed or angry; they know how much I enjoy a frank exchange of views. I'm most impressed by your canonical insight; perhaps one day you'll let us have a glimpse of it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3184990032979540229.post-30281540809068976472013-06-23T14:21:00.889+01:002013-06-23T14:21:00.889+01:00Again with the conspiracy theories! I can't be...Again with the conspiracy theories! I can't believe I'm arguing with someone who uses the word 'sinister' in an un-ironic way. It's Project Blue Beam! It's deception by hologram! It's mass poisoning by means of prescription of antidepressants in industrial quantities. It's the intended elimination of 90% of the population; it's Big Pharma run by giant lizards. Farewell, Tom, 'twas fun while it lasted! Stay off the serotonin reuptake inhibitors, and don't keep your mobile anywhere near any of those body parts you value most.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3184990032979540229.post-78450725276108670242013-06-23T12:52:05.587+01:002013-06-23T12:52:05.587+01:00Not immature, Tom, just incredibly witty. I don...Not immature, Tom, just incredibly witty. I don't think you're used to being teased, are you? <br /><br />And I should hope you ARE able to recognise the comments I've written; I am aware of exactly which are mine, and which are by other Anonymouses (sic). And I promise I'm not submitting lots of comments purporting to be from several different persons. <br /><br />And your quotes are no less spammy than mine; they are just statements of opinion. No more valuable or convincing than any other. Some of them state the bleedin' obvious ('they have significant side-effects', with no relevance whatsoever. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3184990032979540229.post-21995122479542760992013-06-23T12:47:01.643+01:002013-06-23T12:47:01.643+01:00I'm suggesting that you are a quibbler, or hai...I'm suggesting that you are a quibbler, or hair-splitter, or nit-picker; more interested in semantics than in the issues under debate. Illness, condition, disease; it is what each sufferer chooses to call it. Is a by-pass an operation, or surgery, or surgical intervention, or procedure? If you need one, they can call it what they like, as long as they don't call it unnecessary and take it off the menu. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3184990032979540229.post-90408530612407879342013-06-23T12:45:17.935+01:002013-06-23T12:45:17.935+01:00What's cheap and nasty is ganging up on a cont...What's cheap and nasty is ganging up on a contributor ('Sophie', I think), who made an entirely innocent and sympathetic comment. What's 'cheap and 'nasty' is dishonesty misrepresenting other people's positions and arguments to score points. What's 'cheap' and 'nasty' is playing to the audience using insufferable, simpering, lachrymose prose. What's 'cheap' and 'nasty' is using emotional manipulation to advance a highly-ignorant, irrational, dangerous and sinister agenda, which involves narcotising huge numbers of people in response to natural feelings and emotions. What's 'cheap' and 'nasty' is swearing and insinuating threats at those with the sheer temerity to ask why we should be doing this, and who disagree or differ in their thoughts and views. <br /><br />This particular brand of cheapness and nastiness is, sadly, a feature of the internet, and is simply an extension of human nature. Human beings are fundamentally irrational and, particularly in the West, value the social over the cerebral. It is rare to encounter an ad hoc debate, anywhere, in which canonical insight is valued.Tom Rogershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03941520164254766362noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3184990032979540229.post-38405023948583758892013-06-23T12:29:50.650+01:002013-06-23T12:29:50.650+01:00The burden of proof rests with you because you are...The burden of proof rests with you because you are the one making the positive assertions and you are the one who supports the dispensing of drugs. It is reasonable that we expect you to demonstrate a proper basis for this. It is interesting that you can't - very worrying too, given the ubiquitousness of these drugs now.<br /><br />I have not arrived at this thread with an agenda. I am a regular contributor to this blog, so I can't have done, but even if I have or had some kind of agenda, that wouldn't prove or disprove anything. All I have said is that I am not convinced. <br /><br />It's good that you are taking back some of your comments, but it's only a start. You also need to drop the holier than thou act, stop being offended every two minutes, and start thinking for yourself. You also need to start drawing a distinction between 'adopting a position' and 'adopting an argument'. Like most people who argue emotionally rather than rationally, you are confusing the former for the latter, hence your frustration with people like me who have this awkward habit of questioning things. Tom Rogershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03941520164254766362noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3184990032979540229.post-19608121354937842232013-06-23T12:23:56.803+01:002013-06-23T12:23:56.803+01:00A 'disease' and an 'illness' are n...A 'disease' and an 'illness' are not the same thing. Not at all. Yes, the terms can be used synonymously, but only in appropriate context, and that is not here. To clarify, are you suggesting that depression is an illness or a disease, or both?Tom Rogershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03941520164254766362noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3184990032979540229.post-52029516156101256842013-06-23T11:32:35.682+01:002013-06-23T11:32:35.682+01:00And 'threats and swearing'? Oh deary me. I...And 'threats and swearing'? Oh deary me. I take back the 'hell' (swearing) and 'STFU' (threats). Better now? And I should hope you ARE able to tell which comments are mine; I certainly know which ones I wrote. I promise I'm not submitting comments purporting to be from lots if different anonymouses (sic).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3184990032979540229.post-23036843793442100022013-06-23T10:47:31.204+01:002013-06-23T10:47:31.204+01:00An army of Anonymouses (anonimi? Anonimice?), marc...An army of Anonymouses (anonimi? Anonimice?), marching proudly behind a secret banner... lol.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com