tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3184990032979540229.post8132857389919790633..comments2023-10-25T09:49:43.089+01:00Comments on BEN'S PRISON BLOG - Lifer On The Loose: The Perpetual Lieprisonerbenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14923205052778958118noreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3184990032979540229.post-11966734101134915172012-11-05T08:51:17.685+00:002012-11-05T08:51:17.685+00:00Indeed. His snap analysis of me is typical of the ...Indeed. His snap analysis of me is typical of the type of nonexistent evidence used by him (and others of a like minded ilk) to write-up reports about those in their charge they may have simply taken a dislike to. <br /><br />And although (as already suggested) it’s always interesting for those who haven’t experienced the pleasure of prison, to see the warped mind of a power-crazed screw at work. The fact that people like this cretin have as much power as a High Court Judge (in terms of the ability to keep someone locked up) - should be a concern for all. <br /><br />I haven’t threatened anyone in *any* post, yet, simply from my response to his drivel - he’s deduced that I’m a violent (active) criminal who’s still leaving victims in my wake. <br />Just for the record: Although my contribution to society probably wouldn't win any awards. Having spent 35 years getting out of a system I was born into - I have now been out of prison (arrest free!) for nearly 2 decades. <br /><br />My own ‘revolving door’ experience of the Care/CJS didn't come to an end because of any Psychologist, Psychiatrist or Probation Officer. My problems (in terms of re-offending) were always practical, and as thus, disappeared as soon as I managed (through a combination of factors) to overcome those particular hurdles. <br /><br />Even so, after nearly 20 years, I still wake up relieved and thankful that I'm no longer within the corrupt clutches of the likes of Anon above.<br />Darbynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3184990032979540229.post-71571966060005036262012-11-03T12:13:07.063+00:002012-11-03T12:13:07.063+00:00It's great that a guy who calls others "s...It's great that a guy who calls others "scum" can accuse them of having a chip on their shoulder....and not recognise the irony. Or probably spell it. Still, good to see that the question of whether Neanderthal Man could use a keyboard has been resolved..... :)prisonerbenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14923205052778958118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3184990032979540229.post-68242113518158278282012-11-03T00:09:33.839+00:002012-11-03T00:09:33.839+00:00Oh dear, another officer who thinks that psycholog...Oh dear, another officer who thinks that psychology has anything to do with offending.<br /><br />Do you not realise that the reason MoJ won't pay for the courses is because they know they don't work. They only still exist in some prisons to give petty individuals like you a warm feeling. <br /><br />I didn't do any courses, yet I'm now a law-abiding citizen, no re-offending, job, house, partner, regular trips abroad. Nothing to do with your (or your colleagues) input. You really can't cope with the fact that the successes don't get as much publicity as the failures.Fenrir Lukoinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3184990032979540229.post-60612043224712901122012-10-24T19:49:11.442+01:002012-10-24T19:49:11.442+01:00Going to prison can be a real shock to some people...Going to prison can be a real shock to some people and they might turn their lives around whilst there and because of it. <br /><br />This really is a mindfield of a subject ... <br /><br />Clearly, as we can see from some of the comments of this and other recent threads, many people who work in the prison environment have prejudices ( which leads to mal treatment ) against those who they keep locked up. <br /><br />The problem is that there are just too many people being locked up who have committed petty crimes and are probably just growing up poor and working class; with all the problems that that situation entails. <br /><br />Locking up and brutalising groups of people is all of our business, and it is getting out of hand now as there are people who are suffering from insanity who commit and do very silly things because of what is going on in their minds and they are being locked up. People who might have committed a silly and small but unintelligable act, years ago would have been looked after and offered a hospital bed, residential care, and / or day care services, they now find themselves being brutalised in the prison service. For the mentally insane people who are dangerous, they don't cease to be dangerous by being brutalised and locked up, they carry on, and it makes the prison estate even worse.<br /><br />Honestly, there must be a better way. People who are insane and do stupid things should not go to jail in the first place, and the ones who have no insight into their insanity and continue to hurt and maime, should be given understanding, again, in the first place. <br /><br />No one individual has the right over another to decide that they are a lost cause and should be kept separate and mentally or even physically brutalised or tortured.<br /><br />The way things are currently all stem from he fact that the ruling class are in a small minority and are shit scared of the majority, and so by any way they can, whether it be by institution, force or fraud, they keep us down. They are especially scared and have no comprehension of the danger that goes with being mentally ill. They are fools and their rule over us will not last.Sophie Jnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3184990032979540229.post-30581603991185786792012-10-24T17:10:59.608+01:002012-10-24T17:10:59.608+01:00Well, you are all entertaining yourselves so well ...Well, you are all entertaining yourselves so well that I am retiring from this thread.<br /><br />Posterity -and readers- will note whose comments were the reasoned ones, and whose were shot through with bile.prisonerbenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14923205052778958118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3184990032979540229.post-28695022848174331752012-10-24T16:54:43.842+01:002012-10-24T16:54:43.842+01:00@ Darby,there you go again displaying your propens...@ Darby,there you go again displaying your propensity for violence.As I said,you really need to have some kind of counselling & cognitive behavioural therapy as you obviously have a 'chip' on your shoulder (like so many) with those of us in authority.This then manifests itself in people (scum) like you committing crime.Then there are victims of your actions.Victims who have their lives damaged by your selfish actions. So,less the threats as you cannot do anything about it on here.If you cannot post rational comments-go crawl away to under the rock from whence you came!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3184990032979540229.post-49048530205422187142012-10-24T16:33:00.704+01:002012-10-24T16:33:00.704+01:00Unlike our blog host (an educated man), I'm af...Unlike our blog host (an educated man), I'm afraid my way of putting maggots like yourself in their place was a lot less sophisticated! Darbynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3184990032979540229.post-14902810276039004092012-10-24T16:22:16.494+01:002012-10-24T16:22:16.494+01:00I am terribly confused now. Is the mad, crazy viol...I am terribly confused now. Is the mad, crazy violent lunatic one on here the ex-con or the prisoner officer? I feel quite perturbed.Daisy Tweedalenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3184990032979540229.post-37057254297883030422012-10-24T16:16:32.993+01:002012-10-24T16:16:32.993+01:00Anon - Please don't stop illustrating the prob...Anon - Please don't stop illustrating the problems with Prison in that exemplary way that you do. You and people like you could eventually be responsible for much needed reform. Keep talking and explaining your point of view. I applaud you.Mad Ericnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3184990032979540229.post-48998086434204838492012-10-24T16:12:20.760+01:002012-10-24T16:12:20.760+01:00Anon – Either you have genuinely misunderstood the...Anon – Either you have genuinely misunderstood the point or you are attempting to ‘pervert’ what I am saying.<br /><br />Ben – exactly. More than one of Saville’s victims has said that they participated in sexual acts with him for benefit – i.e. appearing on Top of the Pops or rubbing shoulders with celebrities.<br /><br />And isn’t that how ‘perverts’ and pedophiles operate. They don’t force rape children generally – although obviously the ones that do are most likely to end up in prison. Instead they persuade them to do what they want for benefit – be it money, food, proximity to fame, or even ‘love’ and affection?<br /><br />It’s hardly surprising that child abuse lines have been swamped over the last few days. This case has brought it home to people that as far as society is concerned, they were not participants but ‘victims’ – thus they feel absolved of responsibility.<br /><br />It would seem that it’s that sense of responsibility that so often stops kids talking about it later in life or reporting it at the time.<br /><br />And surely it’s the inconsistency here, in the way that the rules of responsibility are defined, that causes so much concealment and so in turn leads to perpetuation?RHnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3184990032979540229.post-39654901117785353512012-10-24T16:10:18.278+01:002012-10-24T16:10:18.278+01:00@ Anon,(the one who doesn't like to put a spac...@ Anon,(the one who doesn't like to put a space after punctuation). <br />You sound like someone in desperate need of a blow job! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3184990032979540229.post-35310526573602430312012-10-24T15:22:29.423+01:002012-10-24T15:22:29.423+01:00@ darby-now you've shown what type of miscrean...@ darby-now you've shown what type of miscreant you are/have been.I suspect that you've been a block rat in your past.A typical poor coper who blamed everyone else for your inadequacies.Someone who cannot accept the consequences for his actions,always looking for confrontation,a real poor excuse for a so called human being.Ring any bells? Grow up & accept your failings,move on,live your life appropriately,legally & without blaming others for your behaviour.I suspect though you'll fall short!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3184990032979540229.post-59464742053163604182012-10-24T15:21:53.666+01:002012-10-24T15:21:53.666+01:00If I don't know what I am talking about perhap...If I don't know what I am talking about perhaps you could educate me or others? It might mean that in future I can go forth as a slightly more educated person. In particular I would be interested to know which part of my statements you think are wrong. Is it the statement that only a judge or magistrate have powers of sentence (or the governor in narrow circumstances I suppose)? Or the statement that the sentence does not include deprivation of the right to physical integrity (if it does please send me to the relevant part of the sentencing guidelines)? Or is it the statement that because prisoners are not deprived of these rights then crime against them should be a concern?tallguynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3184990032979540229.post-53028947333159378812012-10-24T15:18:04.645+01:002012-10-24T15:18:04.645+01:00@anon, what a pretty, perfect system you describe,...@anon, what a pretty, perfect system you describe, where all who commit wrong - staff or con - get their due justice.<br /><br />Such a pity that wasn't the system I knew.prisonerbenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14923205052778958118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3184990032979540229.post-69570621835854744812012-10-24T15:16:02.268+01:002012-10-24T15:16:02.268+01:00@Anon, another thorough, detailed rebutal of a per...@Anon, another thorough, detailed rebutal of a perfectly framed point, lol. Ladies and Gentlemen, dear readers, I haven't spent much time over the years talking about screws on this blog. But due to these recent interruptions you will have a greater appreciation of just what I - and my peers - were up against. I don't need to abuse them; but they are compelled to abuse us. I sincerely hope that you keep coming back to reveal your true nature guys, thank you!!!!!!prisonerbenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14923205052778958118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3184990032979540229.post-65827004994052285642012-10-24T15:12:49.568+01:002012-10-24T15:12:49.568+01:00@Anon, keep going, doing my job for me.....@Anon, keep going, doing my job for me.....prisonerbenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14923205052778958118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3184990032979540229.post-72936778654339096642012-10-24T15:12:37.606+01:002012-10-24T15:12:37.606+01:00I expect you're somewhat peeved that you (and ...I expect you're somewhat peeved that you (and a dozen or so of your thick, bully-boy chums!) can't quieten me down in the preferred manner, - on account of my not being tucked away in a quiet corner of a block somewhere. Live with it! <br /><br />Darbynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3184990032979540229.post-56824724878521809652012-10-24T15:11:59.425+01:002012-10-24T15:11:59.425+01:00@ tallboy-you really are talking through you arse....@ tallboy-you really are talking through you arse.I'm of the opinion that you don't know what you're talking about.Perhaps you need to leave this alone & find something else to whinge/whine about.Only do your research first otherwise you'll continue to look like a fool.Bye!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3184990032979540229.post-40978157132510407022012-10-24T15:04:53.050+01:002012-10-24T15:04:53.050+01:00The point is not that the staff are performing the...The point is not that the staff are performing the abuse (although some stories suggest that some (not all) staff are). The point is that you cannot dismiss crime against prisoners because they have not had their rights to physical integrity and property awaytallguynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3184990032979540229.post-1616192988441814382012-10-24T14:43:36.214+01:002012-10-24T14:43:36.214+01:00@ tallguy-corporal punishment does not take place ...@ tallguy-corporal punishment does not take place in HMPS.Property that's allowed & on property card (signed as correct by con) is allowed.Acquired property from others by various sometimes illegal methods is not allowed.You really have no idea of all the good work that is done by my colleagues in jails daily.Convicts have to follow the rules as do Staff.When cons do not,they have to accept the consequences of their actions as do Staff.There is a phenomenal amount of violence in jails daily-violence by con on con & often is not seen by Staff due to location/method & cons not wanting authority involvement as they see it as 'grassing'which is an immature but understandable way of dealing with problem.Your views on prison are based on -probably sod all!!! just conjecture.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3184990032979540229.post-60532238924240817002012-10-24T14:37:28.367+01:002012-10-24T14:37:28.367+01:00Dog screws should remain in their kennels!Dog screws should remain in their kennels!Darbynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3184990032979540229.post-69187710393901762442012-10-24T14:29:25.568+01:002012-10-24T14:29:25.568+01:00Criminals are sent to prison by a Judge or Magistr...Criminals are sent to prison by a Judge or Magistrate. They, and they alone, have the authority to determine the sentence they deserve and receive. Prison officers do not have that right. Their job is to follow the order that has been prescribed by a judge. As the orders given by the judge do not include corporal punishment by beating or of confiscation of property (at least beyond a proceeds of crime order, which does not apply to the property in a prisoners cell) then no one can state that they have been denied the right of physical integrity and property. <br /><br />Therefore, prisoner officers have the same duty to protect prisoners from crime as they have to other members of the public to protect them from violence and theft. Whatever you may think of those under your charge, you have that duty to them as you DO NOT have the authority to play judge. tallguynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3184990032979540229.post-53188393055273219042012-10-24T14:25:15.541+01:002012-10-24T14:25:15.541+01:00@Anon, still ranting as your keyboard melted...? R...@Anon, still ranting as your keyboard melted...? Rebut just one of @Fenrir Lukoi's points and a debate could break out.<br /><br />Nice to know the people charged with my rehabilitation saw me as "vermin", in capitals no less. Explains the reoffending rate.prisonerbenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14923205052778958118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3184990032979540229.post-70388849182593686232012-10-24T14:19:59.631+01:002012-10-24T14:19:59.631+01:00Rubbish & you know it.You just try to convince...Rubbish & you know it.You just try to convince those who've never been inside (as Staff or con)otherwise.Staff do a dirty job on behalf of the law abiding public by keeping VERMIN contained in an environment away from harming the public further with their selfish,immature,beligerant,arrogant,obnoxious,subversive,non conformist criminal behaviour.Only the misguided amongst your peers think otherwise.It's easy for you to 'have a pop' at Prison/Police Officers as you've served 3 decades as nothing more than a convict.At least I & my colleagues have had the decency to serve the public in a role that has most respect & I would say my concience is as clear as it can be.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3184990032979540229.post-65194480516801852762012-10-24T14:11:18.085+01:002012-10-24T14:11:18.085+01:00Sounds like a daft system, doesn't it...? Beca...Sounds like a daft system, doesn't it...? Because it is.prisonerbenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14923205052778958118noreply@blogger.com