Sunday, December 11, 2011

Victims (yet again)

I don’t recall saying that I would avoid topics which may be uncomfortable, controversial or even offensive.  Putting the full weight of the State on a person and throwing them into prison is a profound act. It is to expel them from their community and to deliberately inflict suffering. Given the seriousness of this, then confining the debate to some comfortable island, to bow to sacred cows, or to merely bandy trite stereotypes around would be cowardly and pointless. As I have a voice, it would be pure ego to use it merely to flatter you or to polish my own image. As the only regular prison blogger in this country then I feel a responsibility to strip away the detritus that often passes for penological debate and attempt to deal with some of the difficult issues. This clearly makes some readers uncomfortable.


One of the most sensitive issues is that of the victims of crime. Those who have followed the blog from its early days will understand that I decline to be led by popular opinion on victims’ issues. At the same time, I refuse to poke at victims’ issues merely to provoke outrage. There are genuine issues to debate and I will on occasion raise them.
This may seem to be indecent and I'm not insensitive to that. People whose lives have been wrecked by crime should receive support and the utmost consideration as indiv­iduals. Human suffering should provoke our empathy.
As a collective, some victims have grouped to form a political lobby whose effects are visible throughout the criminal justice system. Individual victims may - from plain decency - be left in peace but political lobby groups are legitimate targets for debate or criticism. The alternative is to abandon policy-making to the hands of a particular group, whose agenda may not be for the good of the wider society.
Such criticism may seem unseemly. That is the price of debate. That such subjects are being analysed by a murderer seems to be plain crass or foolish, as one commenter alleges. That may be so.
As a member of a society whose criminal justice system is being warped by victims lobbying, I maintain that I have every right to join the debate. Justice should, after all, belong to all of us. As a prisoner whose daily living conditions and progress to release are affected by victims lobbying efforts, I insist that I have a perfect right to be heard. And as a man who lost his sister to a violent crime I myself am a victim and on that basis I feel it should not be viewed as improper that I have a voice. Unless only "nice" victims are allowed to speak?
In some sense I may be uniquely placed to speak on such issues. As the singular prison blogger, and as both the perpetrator and victim of homicidal crime, I may offer a bridge that could span the chasms in these debates.  And if some readers find such debate uncomfortable I can only hope that they examine their beliefs.
An uncomfortable  debate  always holds the potential  to be  a  deeply productive  one  and this blog always  prefers  to  generate   light  rather  than  heat.

11 comments:

  1. You are right of course. However, there is one major problem with this debate at the moment, and it is a prisoner. It is a prisoner who is willing to be interviewed, to write, to appear on TV, to loudly give his opinions. It is a prisoner who fought his way to the Strasbooug courts for prisoners votes. If I hadn't stumbled upon the guardian article that lead me to this blog, it would probably be the only memorable prisoner speaking on these issues.

    It is John Hirst.

    I have no idea if he is simply unable to express himself, or if he actually has no idea what normal members of society think. However, he is the perfect victims spokesman. He is the "perfect Criminal," in that he comes across as unpleasant, arrogant, and not at all remorseful (in particular when he states that he doesn't need to be sorry as he has served time in prison which absolves his crime).

    In doing so, I think he does more damage to the cause of prisoners rights than any other person in the UK.

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  2. Yeah, about those votes, when are we going to see prisoners voting?

    I hope every prisoner who is being denied the vote currently is pursuing a compensation claim against the government since they (The Tories) as usual seem to think they're above the law on this issue!

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  3. So…… victims isolated are fine (being ‘worthy of the utmost consideration as individuals’). But they’ve had the sheer temerity and wrong-headedness to form a political lobby ---and by doing so have warped the criminal justice system.

    But all is not lost, because Mr Gunn feels he’s maybe uniquely placed to speak out against this state of affairs ----- because he is a (very) long-serving murderer who has ‘lost his sister to a violent crime’.

    Ben --- if you’re going to be a ‘bridge (to) span the chasms’ on this issue then, for my tastes if no one else’s, you need to show a degree of humility –all I see here is conceit.

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  4. and tallguy: John Hirst has done difficult, technical work and he’s done it painstakingly and to excellent effect. And he gets noticed. All fine by me.

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  5. Ben can speak out about this subject as he has a right to an opinion, he is articulate, has writing skills and a regular blog with a large audience, what is wrong with that? What makes you say or think he is showing conceit here anonymous?

    The criminal justice system is well warped anyway and has been for a long time hence the said imbalance and the topic of discussion.

    It admirable to attempt to make a bridge in the debate among the opposing sides, but I don't rate Ben's chance at success, although I would be glad to be proven wrong.

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  6. You are right, Tall Guy, JH is not a very palatable spokesman. But I hear he has Asberghers syndrome, which may explain it.

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  7. Anonymous coward 1:

    Lobby groups are /never/ a good idea on any subject, they corrupt everything, see the Americans and their flat refusal to do anything about climate change because big oil companies with money can bribe the representatives.

    While it's nowhere near as bad here as we (thankfully) have a fairly transparent system, it does still go on, heh.

    Victims should have no say whatsoever, this is not Saudia Arabia, the state punishes criminals through a fairly well known body of people, namely our magistrates and judges who are trained to sentence the crime and not the criminal, victims and their groups are not and cannot be objective which is why they rightly shouldn't have anything to do with the process.

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  8. Ben himself recommends John Hurst on this site. From that, I can only deduce that he understands fully, what an equally unique (and valid) prospective he brings to the table in terms of exposing the ills of our CJS.

    If JH exuded a more clean-cut image, I expect all the usual suspects involved in prison reform would be queuing up to welcome him on-board.

    From what I've read. I consider JH a victim himself.

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  9. Well said, Hideki, good point made there about victims.

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  10. In British law any crimes you commit are against the State: the State tells you not to do something and if you do it the State gets cross with you. It's what you did not what the outcome was: you couldn't know the kid you hit would die but you you could and did know you shouldn't hit him.
    It's a good principle because it's fair - pity governments don't keep to it. Hysterical lobby groups, especially of victims' relatives, are only partly to blame. The media barons are a lot to blame too.

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  11. Hideki,
    taking a problem and inverting it doesn't fix things, it just means you have a different problem. Lobby groups have done their share of good in the States. The ACLU does lobbying; so do groups like PFLAG and the NAACP. Money means you can afford to pay professional lobbyists, so it's an advantage, but it's not one victims' rights groups tend to have. Besides, you don't seem to be talking about lobbying anyway - you're talking about campaign contributions (which are poorly regulated, but that's not the topic.)

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